Jan 15
I have and will continue to post extensively on choosing a Tax pro. I am hopful everyone uses cation when doing so. If you haven’t read my post (several indivdual and a few series of. . .) please do so, for you. The IRS puts this out every year but not to the extent that your tax bloggers do.
Get started here, then please serch my blog and the web for what is being said on this.
Eight Tips to Help You Choose a Tax Preparer
Earlier this past week I noticed a post(1) from a blogging colleague. I mention this as although his said intentions were set and designed to inform taxpayers, I found not only a few things wrong with the post, but also felt like the post was an attack. The attack was not to just a good blogging friend and colleague, but to other such professionals as well. Moreover, I am not just referring to tax professionals.
Please, let me explain better.
There has been an ongoing, somewhat group, discussion about the pending and upcoming regulation of tax preparers. In the post referenced above it is clear that the subject is surrounding this topic.
Click to continue reading “A little Professionalism, if you please.”
Jul 8
Okay, things have settled and for the most part organized. Taking up this blogging thing again as before; Monday, Wednesday, Friday, with a recap of the past week on Sunday’s. I have missed being active regularly and I have been missed, but things are going strong again.
For my readers who have hung with me thank you. I apologize in advance for the repost below but given everything, I find it necessary.
So much talk about hiring a tax professional and so much debate about who is a professional I want this out again.
The biggest point I want to make is that just because someone is a CPA, doesn’t automatically make them a tax professional.
Tax professionals are hard to find because as you may have heard, there is no accreditation from the AICPA (American Institute of Certified Public Accountants) that says “Tax Professional”.
Hope you enjoy my return to active blogging.
Repost of Who is. . .
As a tax preparer I am often asked what is the difference between a tax attorney, an accountant/CPA, a bookkeeper, an Enrolled Agent, and a tax preparer.
A Tax Attorney is not the same as an accountant. The accountant can work with the financial issues and has a general knowledge of tax laws; however a tax attorney is a specialist in all aspects of tax law. Although they often work closely together, they are two complete different services. Typically large and even small businesses will meet with a tax attorney once every quarter or once a year to ensure that they are making the best possible business choices with regards to investments and tax issues. Since the taxation laws change constantly, this is an important step.
A Bookkeeper is responsible for keeping accurate, up-to-date business records for proper cash flow management, balance sheet preparation, and developing expansion and investment plans. A bookkeeper also assists in filing tax returns with updated tax records. Accurate bookkeeping is a legal requirement and should be kept well within the standards that are set by local and federal tax agencies. A bookkeeper accurately records all of the financial transactions. It is the responsibility of bookkeeper to note all monetary transactions that are received and paid out. The records also include outstanding balances that the company owes to other parties and others who owe to the business. Business bookkeeping takes a lot of time and cannot be done in a hurry. At small businesses, bookkeepers also double as company accountants. Perhaps bookkeepers have the biggest responsibilities in the company as business planning, payroll management, and tax return preparations are dependent on accurate bookkeeping. Bookkeepers often do not have the qualifications or certifications of accountants, but the responsibility is not any less. Bookkeepers that have a great deal of experience can market themselves as accountants or managers. For that, they also need to supplement their profession with certificate courses, seminar attendance, and on-job training. All types of businesses require bookkeepers who are experienced in their specific business functions.
Accountants keep track of a company’s money. The company’s managers and people outside the company read their reports. Managers look at the accountants’ reports to see how well their companies are doing. There are four kinds of accountants:
Public accountants work for public accounting companies. They do accounting, auditing, tax, and consulting work. Some have their own businesses. They do many different kinds of accounting for people outside the company.
Management accountants keep track of the money spent and made by the companies for which they work.
Accountants generally work a standard 40-hour week, but some work 50 hours a week or more. Tax accountants often work long hours during the tax season, from January to April. Most accountants have a college degree in accounting. Public accountants have to take a special test as well, resulting in a certification. Public accountants also must have a special license from the State in which they live. Accountants are generally good mathematicians, and have good analytical skills.
An Enrolled Agent (EA) is a federally-authorized tax practitioner who has technical expertise in the field of taxation and who is empowered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury to represent taxpayers before all administrative levels of the Internal Revenue Service for audits, collections, and appeals. “Enrolled” means to be licensed to practice by the federal government, and “Agent” means authorized to appear in the place of the taxpayer at the IRS. Only Enrolled Agents, attorneys, and CPAs may represent taxpayers before the IRS. The Enrolled Agent profession dates back to 1884 when, after questionable claims had been presented for Civil War losses, Congress acted to regulate persons who represented citizens in their dealings with the U.S. Treasury Department.
A professional Tax Preparer is an individual who prepares tax returns. A professional tax preparer can be a Tax Attorney, an Accountant/CPA, a Bookkeeper, an Enrolled Agent, or anyone who professionally prepares tax returns for clients. Most return preparers are professional, honest and provide excellent service to their clients.
So there you have it.
How do you choose the right one to prepare your taxes? There is no one factor to use in determining this. I suggest you read the IRS Tips for Choosing a Tax Preparer. Or my website page Finding a Qualified Tax Preparer. I would also hope you to read 5 Biggest Mistakes most taxpayers make when choosing a tax professional!
Friday I was interviewed and retained by a new client. This particular client has several issues that actually can fall in line with a great debate we have all been following.
First, a little background:
A young newly wedded (three years) couple has their tax return done by “pros” as they are not among those who follow the taxing world. We will call them Pat and Jody Taxpayer. Having just started their own Business they left HeRBert (the group who prepared their returns) for what to them was perceived as a tax professional. They retained a CPA to handle some general bookkeeping and complete tax returns.
Good choice?
Of course it is, “All but the militantly nefarious and hopelessly deluded concede that CPAs are experts at keeping books and records. There simply is no higher accounting “designation.” then CPA.
The CPA (Certified Public Accountant) maintained records by gaining access to Pat & Jody’s bank account using the online statements. The first tax season for this CPA came around and she completed the 2007 tax return. Another year passed, and she completed the 2008 return.
Several months ago, the IRS notified the Taxpayers that the 2007 return was under investigation. Seven lines on two different Schedule Cs were in Question.
Considering a CPA had prepared this return there should be no worries.
So how did I get this return?
When the time came for the audit with the “Tax Compliance Officer”, the CPA, had manufactured information to provide the IRS to validate two of the seven lines in question and did not show up to guide the Taxpayers through the 3 ½ hour long ordeal. Needless to say, the IRS found no substantial proof or validation for seven lines in question. P & J now are holding a bill from the IRS for over $10,000.00.
Not only are the taxpayers confused about what happened, but the “Compliance Officer” also looked at their 2008 return, they are about to undergo another audit.
“Because good accounting skills are a critical part of good tax preparation, CPAs are uniquely qualified to be tax preparers.”
So where is this CPA? Avoiding Pat and Jody.
This is a most uniquely “qualified” tax preparer?
I reviewed 2006 (again prepared by HeRBert – a fast food chain preparation service), 2007 and 2008 returns. (again, these two returns were prepared by the same “CPA”)
“Good tax preparation is about numbers. It’s about keeping good books and records.
In short, it’s about good accounting.
In fact, what is a tax return if it’s not an accounting?”
Hummmmm
if anyone needs a definition to “accounting” I have a link to the right for Merriam-Webster Dictionary or you can click this.
Good thing it doesn’t suggest an ability to add or subtract.
Same for Accountant.
What the 2008 return consisted of was a 1040A – Short Form, nothing more.
My conclusion is this CPA stands proudly among those who are truly CPA tax professionals. You real CPAs who are tax pros, give her credibility she assuredly doesn’t need.
As for Jody and Pat, luckily they found a tax professional. I will help them through the amended returns, the audit up coming, and any and all IRS intervention that may come their way. If you wish to stay updated on their situation, I will create a blog page giving more detail information and will keep it updated.
However not all of you will see it this way. Why? Well, I am no longer a CPA. I am not an EA, nor am I an Attorney. What does this make me? I am an unenrolled preparer.
Unenrolled preparers, by definition, have no recognized credentials and are bound by no professional standards
And what are the unique qualifications of an unenrolled preparer?
Would someone please tell me?
Anyone?
The silence is deafening.
That’s because the answer is “none . . . nada . . . zero . . . zilch.”
The silence sir, is deafening because you are on your computer. But now, please, open your eyes fully, adjust your glasses, I want you to hear me plainly.
An unenrolled preparer is a unique person. Like a Lawyer, a CPA, or Doctor or any other profession, you are going to have unqualified hacks. My Credentials are useless in the taxing industry.
Or did you miss it?
The AICPA told a CPA/Tax Professional “We do not offer a credential in taxation. In general, our approach has been not to develop credential programs around areas for which the public already believes CPAs to ‘own’. In addition, we do not endorse a particular tax credential.”
An unenrolled preparer sees how others take advantage of the miss-conceptions of the designation and learns tax rules and regs to help people through what can be a very taxing time (no pun intended).
I question your thinking when you say a man with over 35 years in the tax preparation industry has no credibility. I only have 23 so I must not have any either?
Hummmm, let’s look at my background a bit:
a) A Masters in Accounting
b) Formally employed by this countries (at the time) Largest Accounting firms
c) Formally a CPA
d) 23 years preparing returns for taxpayers
Of the four listed in my mind, only qualifies me to call myself a tax professional. I can assure you it isn’t one of the top three.
“There simply is no higher accounting designation.”
Thus, if the Internal Revenue Code imposes an affirmative duty on taxpayers to maintain good books and records, doesn’t that alone explain why CPAs are uniquely qualified to prepare tax returns and why many CPAs are drawn to the field of tax preparation?
Of course it does.”
You Pompous arrogant ass. Is your head so high in the sky that you are not getting enough oxygen?
True enough, the IRC does affirm duty to taxpayers to maintain good and accurate records. Alone that tells me (a former CPA) should seek advice from a CPA on how to keep those records not how or where to put them on a tax return.
It is my opinion that a good majority of the CPAs that are drawn to taxation and preparation do so for the money.
(Not to get off subject, but are you actually a licensed Tax Attorney, and a CPA? I know a few Lawyers and I’ll have to ask, to be sure, but I think like the AICP, there is nothing out there for Lawyers to hold actual “tax” credentials. If I am wrong please correct me, do you have some designation that says you’re a Tax Lawyer? If so, what is it?
As for not being bound by professional standards, I find it hard to understand why I have to point out to a designated pro that we (The Unenrolled prepares) are bound by the same rules in Circular 230 as you are. Maybe you should read it some time.
A while back, I post Who is: a post that defines different titles. If you want to see the entire post please click on the link Who is: Below is a brief recap:
A Tax Attorney - Typically large and even small businesses will meet with a tax attorney once every quarter or once a year to ensure that they are making the best possible business choices with regards to investments and tax issues. Since the taxation, laws change constantly.
A Bookkeeper – is responsible for keeping accurate, up-to-date business records for proper cash flow management, balance sheet preparation, and developing expansion and investment plans.
Accountants – keep track of a company’s money.
Enrolled Agent – is a federally authorized tax practitioner who has technical expertise in the field of taxation and who is empowered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury to represent taxpayers before all administrative levels of the Internal Revenue Service for audits, collections, and appeals.
Tax Preparer – an individual who prepares tax returns.
Other post from the “taxguy” blog that may be related to the taxpayer issue mentioned in this post.
Choosing the Right Representative
5 Worst Things You Can Do if You Get an IRS Collection Notice a Guest post from Peter Pappas. . .
Jun 21
I have been asked and asked about taxpayer regulation, and why haven’t I posted about?
In my opinion all the talk about the regulation is just hype. Meaning, Our government, in my opinion is just trying to build up how they want to work for you. All well and good, but to actually implement something is going to be a whole other story. For now, everyone is just looking at the idea.
My friend Robert (a.k.a. The Wondering Tax Pro), has several post that if you really want my opinion then look to his as he and I see this the same. Below are links to the best gab on Tax Preparer Regulation. I recommend to everyone, to read them.
From Joe K. at Roth & Company, P.C.
From Robert F. at The Wandering Tax Pro
From Petter P. at The Tax Lawyer’s Blog
From Kay B. at Don’t Mess With Taxes
From Trish M. at Our Taxing Times
From Kelly P. Erb. at TAXGIRL
From Monica L. at The Tax CPA or Confessions of a CPA
From G.Christopher W at The Tax Law Report
From Dan M. at Tick Marks
Over all if you are wondering what I think, it is simple:
Everyone who hangs out a sign declaring they prepare tax returns (especially in my opinion Individual returns), should be regulated or licensed to do so. CPA’s, Lawyers, EAs, anyone and everyone.
Apr 15
Today is the day, or the last day I should say.
If you can’t meet the April filing deadline to file your tax return, you can get an automatic six month extension of time to file from the IRS.
Some things you need to know about filing for an extension:
Related Links:
When opening your mail in January and February, you probably will receive a lot of documents with descriptions and/or warnings about this information being “Important Income Tax Information!” Soon you will have to decide how to deal with last year’s income tax situation.
So, do you try to prepare and file your own income tax returns, or are you thinking about hiring a tax professional?
If you are thinking about hiring a tax professional ask yourself “why would or do I need a tax preparer”. If you feel that you need a preparer there are four basic needs for tax preparation services:
1. speed,
2. accuracy,
3. creating a customized tax strategy, and
4. managing a complex tax situation with accuracy and professionalism.
Everyone wants their tax returns to be accurate. All tax professionals, even those at national franchises, should guarantee the accuracy of their work.
If you have a particularly complicated tax situation, you should seek a tax professional with substantial experience to help you.
If having your taxes done quickly is most important, you’ll probably go to one of the nationwide tax franchises. Although I don’t recommend this, the employees at these companies are trained to get your taxes done quickly. Every year I hear from new clients and non-clients who are/were dissatisfied at the level of accuracy and professionalism encountered there.
Tax laws can be complicated and usually change from year to year, so it’s important to find a preparer who has the knowledge and experience to prepare your returns correctly. A lot of states do not require tax preparers to be licensed; however, many preparers are licensed, certified, and belong to professional organizations that require a certain level of education. Find one of those.
Also, services vary considerably from preparer to preparer, so you’ll also want to find one who offers the services you need.
Before you hire a preparer, call around to a couple of tax offices and take the time to ask these questions:
What kind of formal tax training do you have?
Do you hold any professional licenses or designations, such as certified public accountant (CPA)?
Do you belong to any professional organizations?
Do you take continuing professional education classes each year?
How long have you been preparing tax returns?
Have you ever done a tax return dealing with my situation?
Are you open for business year-round?
Have you ever been disciplined by any government authority for malpractice?
Are you authorized to and will you represent me in an audit or collection matter with the IRS or state Department of Revenue if necessary?
How much do you charge, and how do you calculate your fees?
Ask what their price range is. Prices for tax preparation will vary depending on how complex your tax return is. Some professionals charge by the hour, or by how many tax forms you need to fill out, or even a flat fee for all work.
Ask about any guarantees the tax preparer offers. The tax preparer should be willing to guarantee the accuracy of the returns, be willing to amend the tax return if there was a mistake in the tax prep, and be willing and able to assist you in an IRS audit.
Also, be careful of tax preparers who claim to know “the secrets” of obtaining unusually large refunds. Most preparers charge rates based on their time or the complexity of your return, and you should avoid anyone whose fees are based on a percentage of your refund. (This practice is illegal.) Incase questions arise after your return has been filed, find out if, and where, your tax preparer can be contacted in future weeks or months.
Never sign a blank tax form for any preparer.
Remember that you are ultimately responsible for your tax return, so be sure to choose your tax preparer carefully. If you want to find competent, licensed tax professional I suggest you visit The IRS web site Authorized IRS e-file Providers for Individuals then/or go to Search the NATP Member Directory, then call around and ask questions.
Friends and family can be of additional assistance.
What You’ll Need:
◊ All your current year tax documents
◊ Photo identification
◊ Social Security cards for yourself and your dependents
◊ Checkbook for direct deposit of your refund/direct debit for any amount due
◊ Copy of last year’s tax return
Tip: Little known fact is that local CPAs and EAs and other Tax professionals charge only slightly more than a franchise service and will provide much more personalized service.
Tip: Be sure to ask if your preparer is an enrolled agent (EA), CPA, or has received advanced tax training.
Tip: All tax professionals specialize. Find a CPA or EA who has the experience, knowledge, and skills you are looking for.
Tip: Some franchises will try to sell you an enhanced guarantee to cover additional taxes and penalties in case of an audit. This is practically a guaranteed profit for the franchise.
Some more Tips:
¤ A CPA is a professional accountant licensed by the state. Best for corporate accounting, tax audits, and business consulting.
¤ An Enrolled Agent is a tax professional licensed by the IRS. Best for complex tax issues, tax audits, and responding to tax collectors.
¤ A Tax Preparer may be registered by the state. Best for straightforward tax returns.
¤ The national Tax Franchises are H&R Block, Jackson Hewitt, and Liberty Tax. With offices nationwide. Often fast, courteous, and convenient. But some employees will be less trained than others. Be sure to ask for a senior-level tax preparer.
Expect to pay from $150 to $450, depending on how complicated your tax return is.
Being audited really isn’t the worst thing in the world if you are totally honest when filing your taxes. Should you be audited and it is found that you have made an honest mistake, don’t panic. You might be penalized with affordable fines or merely told to correct the mistake. The IRS rarely burns those who practice honesty and caution when filing their taxes. By following the below advice, however, you may never have to find out for yourself.
Can’t pay your taxes in full this year? That is okay! The IRS will work with you through an extension plan. One of the biggest mistakes made by the self-employed when April rolls around is not filing because they can’t pay what they owe. Always file, no matter what. Contact the IRS about your money situation and they will let you pay out the taxes. This results in some penalties, but that is far better than the alternative.
One of the reasons why the IRS watches entrepreneurs so closely is because it is easier for them to underreport their income. If you are a freelancer who occasionally takes small gigs with no paper trail, don’t think you can neglect this income when filing your taxes. Finding inconsistencies is what the IRS does best and they will eventually catch up to you.
There are usually two types of income tax filers who are self-employed:
1) those who are too scared to make deductions because they don’t want to be audited
2) and those who deduct everything under the sun with reckless abandon.
Don’t be either person! You should be able to make deductions, as they are there for your benefit. However, you need to make sure you legitimately qualify for each one.
One of the best ways to prevent mistakes is by having all necessary paperwork handy when you file. This is also your best defense against penalties should the IRS ever come knocking on your door. You see, a lot of deductions really can be a red flag to the IRS. If you can back up each one, however, you are perfectly within your right to claim those tax breaks. Back up everything and keep those documents in a safe, organized place.
If this wasn’t any help then look for my post Wednesday July 9th, “Audit Insurance”
As a tax preparer I am often asked what is the difference between a tax attorney, an accountant/CPA, a bookkeeper, an Enrolled Agent, and a tax preparer.
A Tax Attorney is not the same as an accountant. The accountant can work with the financial issues and has a general knowledge of tax laws; however a tax attorney is a specialist in all aspects of tax law. Although they often work closely together, they are two complete different services. Typically large and even small businesses will meet with a tax attorney once every quarter or once a year to ensure that they are making the best possible business choices with regards to investments and tax issues. Since the taxation laws change constantly, this is an important step.
A Bookkeeper is responsible for keeping accurate, up-to-date business records for proper cash flow management, balance sheet preparation, and developing expansion and investment plans. A bookkeeper also assists in filing tax returns with updated tax records. Accurate bookkeeping is a legal requirement and should be kept well within the standards that are set by local and federal tax agencies. A bookkeeper accurately records all of the financial transactions. It is the responsibility of bookkeeper to note all monetary transactions that are received and paid out. The records also include outstanding balances that the company owes to other parties and others who owe to the business. Business bookkeeping takes a lot of time and cannot be done in a hurry. At small businesses, bookkeepers also double as company accountants. Perhaps bookkeepers have the biggest responsibilities in the company as business planning, payroll management, and tax return preparations are dependent on accurate bookkeeping. Bookkeepers often do not have the qualifications or certifications of accountants, but the responsibility is not any less. Bookkeepers that have a great deal of experience can market themselves as accountants or managers. For that, they also need to supplement their profession with certificate courses, seminar attendance, and on-job training. All types of businesses require bookkeepers who are experienced in their specific business functions.
Accountants keep track of a company’s money. The company’s managers and people outside the company read their reports. Managers look at the accountants’ reports to see how well their companies are doing. There are four kinds of accountants:
Public accountants work for public accounting companies. They do accounting, auditing, tax, and consulting work. Some have their own businesses. They do many different kinds of accounting for people outside the company.
Management accountants keep track of the money spent and made by the companies for which they work.
Accountants generally work a standard 40-hour week, but some work 50 hours a week or more. Tax accountants often work long hours during the tax season, from January to April. Most accountants have a college degree in accounting. Public accountants have to take a special test as well, resulting in a certification. Public accountants also must have a special license from the State in which they live. Accountants are generally good mathematicians, and have good analytical skills.
An Enrolled Agent (EA) is a federally-authorized tax practitioner who has technical expertise in the field of taxation and who is empowered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury to represent taxpayers before all administrative levels of the Internal Revenue Service for audits, collections, and appeals. “Enrolled” means to be licensed to practice by the federal government, and “Agent” means authorized to appear in the place of the taxpayer at the IRS. Only Enrolled Agents, attorneys, and CPAs may represent taxpayers before the IRS. The Enrolled Agent profession dates back to 1884 when, after questionable claims had been presented for Civil War losses, Congress acted to regulate persons who represented citizens in their dealings with the U.S. Treasury Department.
A professional Tax Preparer is an individual who prepares tax returns. A professional tax preparer can be a Tax Attorney, an Accountant/CPA, a Bookkeeper, an Enrolled Agent, or anyone who professionally prepares tax returns for clients. Most return preparers are professional, honest and provide excellent service to their clients.
So there you have it.
How do you choose the right one to prepare your taxes? There is no one factor to use in determining this. I suggest you read the IRS Tips for Choosing a Tax Preparer. Or my website page Finding a Qualified Tax Preparer. I would also hope you to read 5 Biggest Mistakes most taxpayers make when choosing a tax professional!
This is a re-post from 07/23/08
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